NACBA's 33RD Annual Convention: Full Schedule

WELCOME TO NACBA’s 33RD ANNUAL CONVENTION!

8:00am PDT

Pre-Con: Intensive Bankruptcy Tax Workshop

Thursday April 24, 2025 8:00am - 3:50pm PDT

Join us for a comprehensive, all-day continuing education program designed for bankruptcy attorneys eager to deepen their understanding of the intersection between bankruptcy and tax law. In this intensive session, you’ll gain crucial insights into the nuances of discharging tax liabilities in bankruptcy—a complex process that, when mishandled, can expose your practice to significant malpractice risks. Learn how to navigate these challenges with confidence and precision, while also mastering strategies to give your clients viable pathways for tax debt resolution. This intensive pre-conference session will help you master how to handle tax liens and the risk they pose in chapter 7 because the homestead exemption does not apply to the IRS. It will cover the various approaches to proposing chapter 13 plans, when to propose interest, when to file claims for taxing authorities, whether you can seek damages for a stay or discharge violation by a taxing authority, and how to get liens released after bankruptcy.

With expert-led sessions, this program not only equips you with the tools to prevent costly missteps but also empowers you to build a recession-proof law practice. Discover ways to leverage tax knowledge in bankruptcy cases to expand your service offerings, stay resilient in economic downturns, and create long-term value for your clients. Perfect for attorneys looking for a more in-depth understanding of how to deal with tax issues in their practice and stay competitive, this event is a must-attend for anyone serious about elevating their expertise in bankruptcy and tax law.

Moderators

Jenny Doling

Tax & Bankruptcy Attorney | NACBA Vice President | NACBA Board Member, J. DOLING LAW, PC

Jenny L. Doling is the Vice President of NACBA. She has served on its Board of Directors since 2018. Before serving on the Board, she was the NACBA State Chair for California. Ms. Doling is a California State Bar Certified Bankruptcy Specialist and a staunch advocate for Consumer... Read More →

Speakers

Arnold H. Wuhrman

Attorney At Law, The Wuhrman Law Firm

Arnie Wuhrman has practiced tax and bankruptcy law for nearly forty (40) years. Arnie received his B.S. in Business Administration from Washington University in St. Louis in 1982, and his Juris Doctor from the University of California at Los Angeles in 1985. A solo practitioner... Read More →

Jolene Tanner

Assistant United States Attorney, U.S. Attorney's Office

Jolene Tanner is an Assistant United States Attorney and Chief of the Tax Section at theU.S. Attorney's Office, in the Central District of California. She supervises tax and bankruptcy taxlitigation in the Central District of California. She is also the Office's Criminal Bankruptcy... Read More →

Lisa Nelson

Lisa O. Nelson joined the Law Offices of A. Lavar Taylor in 2013 and becoming the firm’s first partner in 2016. Lisa is a Certified Tax Law Specialist in California and has devoted her practice to advocating for her clients in tax controversy matters.Lisa specializes in handling... Read More →

Najah Shariff

Assistant United States Attorney, U.S. Attorney's Office, Central District of California

Najah J. Shariff is an Assistant United States Attorney (AUSA) with the United States Attorney’s Office, Tax Division, in downtown Los Angeles. Ms. Shariff represents the United States, on behalf of the IRS, in bankruptcy tax and civil tax litigation matters in the United States... Read More →

Thursday April 24, 2025 8:00am - 3:50pm PDT
Hollywood Ballroom Studios A-C Mezzanine Level

Tax

3:30pm PDT

Convention Registration & Information Desk

Thursday April 24, 2025 3:30pm - 6:30pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Entrance

Come by the NACBA registration desk and check in. You will need your badge to access the sessions and to join us for meals provided.

Thursday April 24, 2025 3:30pm - 6:30pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Entrance 5th Level

CLE Info

4:00pm PDT

Circuit Meeting 1ST, 2ND, 3RD, 4TH & DC

Thursday April 24, 2025 4:00pm - 5:00pm PDT

Hollywood Ballroom Studios D-E

The circuit community breakout sessions will feature a review of recent case law from the Circuit Court
of Appeals, the Bankruptcy Appellate Panel, Federal District Courts, and local Bankruptcy Courts within
each circuit, the application of state exemption statutes in bankruptcy cases, plus a review of local
bankruptcy rules and procedures, other recent practice developments and any other topic of interest to
consumer and small business bankruptcy practitioners within the circuit.

Speakers

Kristen Nardone

Attorney, Nardone Law Firm

Kristen Scott Nardone is the founding member of Nardone Law Firm, PLLC in Concord, North Carolina. She graduated from Wake Forest University School of Law in 2001. She served as a law clerk for the Honorable J. Craig Whitley in the WDNC and Thomas W. Waldrep, Jr. in the MDNC. She... Read More →

Mike Assad

Attorney, Sadek Law Offices, LLC

Mike Assad is an associate attorney with Sadek Law Offices LLC, where he represents individual and corporate debtors and creditors in reorganizations and liquidations in the U.S. Bankruptcy Courts for the District of New Jersey and the Eastern, Middle, and Western Districts of Pennsylvania... Read More →

Thursday April 24, 2025 4:00pm - 5:00pm PDT
Hollywood Ballroom Studios D-E Mezzanine Level

Circuit Meeting

4:00pm PDT

Circuit Meeting 5TH & 11TH

Thursday April 24, 2025 4:00pm - 5:00pm PDT

Runyon & Laurel

Speakers

Shayna Steinfeld

President, Steinfeld & Steinfeld PC

Shayna Steinfeld, Board Certified by the American Board of Certification in both Consumer and BusinessBankruptcy Law, is a shareholder of Steinfeld & Steinfeld, PC, and practices with her husband, Bruce, a Fellow ofthe American Academy of Matrimonial Lawyers. Her practice involves... Read More →

Theda Page

Attorney, The Page Law Firm

I'm the Reconstructionist™I help people who are going through difficult situations reconstruct their lives. The filing of a bankruptcy gives them the opportunity to get rid of debilitating debt and sets them on a trajectory for a fresh start.I have a side hustle selling amazing... Read More →

Thursday April 24, 2025 4:00pm - 5:00pm PDT
Runyon & Laurel Mezzanine Level

Circuit Meeting

4:00pm PDT

Circuit Meeting 6TH & 7TH

Thursday April 24, 2025 4:00pm - 5:00pm PDT

Beachwood

Speakers

Mike Maloney

Managing partner, Watton Law Group

Michael J. Maloney is the managing partner of the Watton Law Group which has offices in Milwaukee, St. Louis, Kansas City, Denver, Salt Lake City, and Little Rock. Watton Law Group is one of the largest filers of Chapter 13 bankruptcy in the country. . Mr. Maloney was included... Read More →

Kurt O'Keefe

Thursday April 24, 2025 4:00pm - 5:00pm PDT
Beachwood Mezzanine Level

Circuit Meeting

4:00pm PDT

Circuit Meeting 8TH & 10TH

Thursday April 24, 2025 4:00pm - 5:00pm PDT

Doheny

Speakers

Samuel Turco

Managing Attorney, Sam Turco Law Offices, P.C.

Sam Turco graduated from Creighton University in 1989 with a degree in accounting and from the Nebraska College of Law in 1992. He represent clients in Chapter 7, 11, 12 and 13 bankruptcy cases throughout Nebraska and Iowa. He frequently writes on the topic of bankruptcy law. Sam... Read More →

Jill Michaux

Managing Partner, Neis Michaux Law Office

Jill A Michaux is the managing partner of Neis Michaux Bankruptcy Law Office in Topeka, KS. She specializes in representing consumer debtors and small proprietors in Chapter 7 and 13 bankruptcy. Her primary focus is Chapter 13 bankruptcy. She has been board certified in consumer bankruptcy... Read More →

Thursday April 24, 2025 4:00pm - 5:00pm PDT
Doheny Mezzanine Level

Circuit Meeting

4:00pm PDT

Circuit Meeting 9TH

Thursday April 24, 2025 4:00pm - 5:00pm PDT

Hollywood Ballroom Studios A-C

Speakers

M. Jonathan Hayes

Partner, Resnik Hayes Moradi LLP

I am Senior Counsel to RHM Law LLP in Encino, CA. I have practiced bankruptcy law for 43 years representing debtors and creditors including litigation and appeals. Most recently I took a two-year sabbatical and served as a Law Clerk to Judge Laura Taylor sitting on the 9th Circuit... Read More →

Thursday April 24, 2025 4:00pm - 5:00pm PDT
Hollywood Ballroom Studios A-C Mezzanine Level

Circuit Meeting

5:15pm PDT

Beyond the Discharge: Monetizing Post-Bankruptcy Credit Reporting Errors Through Co-Counsel Collaboration

Thursday April 24, 2025 5:15pm - 6:00pm PDT

Hollywood Ballroom Studios A-C

The session will explore common credit reporting inaccuracies that arise following a bankruptcy discharge and discuss how law firms can effectively address these issues. Attendees will also learn how partnering as co-counsel in these matters can create a valuable new revenue stream for their practice.

Speakers

Yitzchak Zelman

Yitzchak Zelman is a founding partner of Marcus Zelman LLC, a nationally recognized law firm dedicated to protecting consumer rights. Yitzchak's practice is devoted exclusively to complex consumer litigation, with a particular focus on the Fair Credit Reporting Act and related federal... Read More →

Thursday April 24, 2025 5:15pm - 6:00pm PDT
Hollywood Ballroom Studios A-C Mezzanine Level

5:15pm PDT

Double Digit Growth: Proven Strategies to Market Your Firm

Thursday April 24, 2025 5:15pm - 6:00pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salon 3

This presentation and discussion will feature the latest data on marketing strategy, and the bankruptcy lawyers using these strategies to grow their firms. From the latest advertising trends, to digital marketing and the impact of AI on the legal marketing segment, you will hear proven approaches to build your practice.

Speakers

Reed Allmand

Owner, Allmand Law Firm PLLC

Deepalie Milie Joshi

Attorney, Joshi Law

Milie considers herself a bankruptcy lawyer through and through. As a California State Bar Certified Bankruptcy Law Specialist, Milie spends her time managing her law practice - Joshi Law Group (est. 2011); teaching bankruptcy law to future paralegals, and advocating for consumer... Read More →

John Simpson

CEO, Convert It Marketing

John Simpson is the Chief Executive Officer of Convert It Marketing. For the past 25 years, John has counseled law firms of all sizes - from AMLAW 200 to solo and boutique firms - on marketing, business development and strategy. Prior to joining Convert It, John was the founder and... Read More →

Brian Yanks

COO, Convert It Marketing

Brian Yanks is the Chief Operating Officer and Co-Founder of Convert It Marketing. With over 15 years of experience in digital marketing, he has played a pivotal role in shaping the company’s strategy, scaling operations and optimizing paid search campaigns to generate high-value... Read More →

Thursday April 24, 2025 5:15pm - 6:00pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salon 3 5th Level

5:15pm PDT

How We Generated 5,000 Paid Leads on TikTok & Instagram—Why They’re Gold and How You Can Do It Too

Thursday April 24, 2025 5:15pm - 6:00pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6

1. The Power of TikTok & Instagram for Bankruptcy Leads

These platforms aren’t just for entertainment—they’re goldmines for lead generation when you know how to use them.
We targeted people struggling with debt, using relatable, high-engagement content that speaks directly to their pain points.

2. Viral Content That Drives Action

We created authentic, short-form videos that educate, empower, and convert.
High retention + high engagement = the algorithm favoring our content.
Ads and organic content positioned bankruptcy as a smart financial reset, not a failure.

3. Turning Viewers Into Paid Leads

Every post had a clear call to action:
- “DM us ‘debt help’ to get started”
- “Click the link in bio for a free debt review”
- “Comment ‘help’ and we’ll reach out”
We funneled traffic to our website and captured leads through an easy intake process.

4. Why These Leads Are So Golden

They’re engaged. Unlike cold leads, they’re actually looking for help.
They trust us. Our content builds credibility before they even reach out.
They convert. They’ve been watching information on bankruptcy—they understand the facts.
They’re not ashamed. There’s no stigma because they’re discovering the solution on social media.

Speakers

John Orcutt

Managing Attorney / Co-owner, Law Offices of John T. Orcutt

Ins and outs of any and all aspects of building and running a high volume consumer debtor bankruptcy law firm...and anything else they want to talk about. LOL We do both Chapter 7 and 13, and prior to COVID, filed approximately 230 cases per month. I love what I do for a living... Read More →

Adrienne Hines (Baker)

Partner, KWHD&W

With almost 30 years of legal experience, Attorney Adrienne Hines has transformed "bankruptcy" from a daunting word to a powerful tool for financial wellness.Pioneering the digital realm, Adrienne uses TikTok and Instagram to debunk bankruptcy myths and boost financial literacy for... Read More →

Philip Tirone

720-System Strategies

Philip Tirone has a unique background in creating an emotional bond between a company and its target client base using non-traditional direct marketing technologies, powerful written-word strategies, and data analytics. 720 System Strategies integrates self-managingtechnology into... Read More →

Thursday April 24, 2025 5:15pm - 6:00pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6 5th Level

6:15pm PDT

Custom Ai Agents built to expedite Bankruptcy Law Casework

Thursday April 24, 2025 6:15pm - 7:00pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6

We will review how you can use Ai agents trained specifically to execute tasks in Bankruptcy Petition preparation like: Instant Document Review, Payroll Organizers & Income data extraction from paystubs, Deduplication of Creditor Data, Means Test Calculations and Exemptions in the petition and finally advanced Computer Use agents to file petitions with CM-ECF PACER portals.

Speakers

Kiran Bellubbi

Thursday April 24, 2025 6:15pm - 7:00pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6 5th Level

6:15pm PDT

Lowering Your Google Ads Cost Per Lead

Thursday April 24, 2025 6:15pm - 7:00pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salon 3

David Chapman is the founder of Webrageous and has been managing Google Ads accounts for attorneys for over 20 years. He has a degree in mechanical engineering with aerospace applications from Brown University. He was part of an undefeated crew team his freshman year and is in the Brown University Sports Hall of Fame, used to work as a raft guide in Costa Rica and has a pilots license. He sees a cost per lead on Google Ads for his bankruptcy attorney clients anywhere from $10/lead to $115/lead depending on the location. About the Talk: Chrome will be phasing out cookies later in 2025. David will show you how to prepare for this significant change and maintain your Google Ads account performance. He will review members Google Ads accounts and show how you can improve performance. Anyone who wants to have their Google Ads account reviewed live during the talk can email David@Webrageous.com During his talk he'll tell you how to opt out of those pesky Google Ads representatives who never stop calling and emailing you.

Speakers

David Chapman

Webrageous

Thursday April 24, 2025 6:15pm - 7:00pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salon 3 5th Level

7:00am PDT

Breakfast

Friday April 25, 2025 7:00am - 8:00am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2

Friday April 25, 2025 7:00am - 8:00am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2 5th Level

Food & Beverage

7:00am PDT

Convention Registration & Information Desk

Friday April 25, 2025 7:00am - 4:00pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2

Come by the NACBA registration desk and check in. You will need your badge to access the sessions and to join us for meals provided.

Friday April 25, 2025 7:00am - 4:00pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2 5th Level

CLE Info

8:00am PDT

Welcome Remarks

Friday April 25, 2025 8:00am - 8:15am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6

Friday April 25, 2025 8:00am - 8:15am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6 5th Level

Plenary

8:15am PDT

Keynote Speaker: Tara Twomey

Friday April 25, 2025 8:15am - 8:35am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6

Speakers

Tara Twomey

Former Director of the United States Trustee Program

Tara Twomey was appointed Director of the Executive Office for U.S. Trustees (EOUST) on February 27, 2023. Prior to her appointment, Ms. Twomey was the Executive Director of the National Consumer Bankruptcy Rights Center and Of Counsel to the National Consumer Law Center. She is a... Read More →

Friday April 25, 2025 8:15am - 8:35am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6 5th Level

Plenary

8:35am PDT

Legislative Update

Friday April 25, 2025 8:35am - 9:05am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6

This program offers a comprehensive overview of the most current developments in bankruptcy legislation and federal bankruptcy rules updates. We will discuss the impact of upcoming legislations, efforts to favorably amend state exemption statutes, and the newly styled federal rules of bankruptcy procedure to take effect in December 2025.

Speakers

Ed Boltz

Partner, Law Offices of John T. Orcutt PC

Mr. Boltz received his B.A. from Washington University in St. Louis in 1993 and his J.D. from George Washington University in 1996. He is a member of the North Carolina State Bar, where he has been certified as a specialist in consumer bankruptcy law. He is admitted to practice before... Read More →

Ike Shulman

Shulman Law Offices

In 1992, Ike Shulman led the effort to organize the National Association of Consumer Bankruptcy Attorneys ("NACBA") to provide consumer debtors with an effective voice in the legislative process. Mr. Shulman was elected NACBA’s first president, and served in that position through... Read More →

Krista D'Amelio

Director of Government Affairs & Communications, NACBA

Krista D’Amelio joined NACBA in April 2017 as Director of Government Affairs and Communications. D’Amelio's work focuses on strengthening relationships and increasing advocacy reach with state and federal elected officials, government agencies, and allies to enhance their understanding... Read More →

Friday April 25, 2025 8:35am - 9:05am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6 5th Level

Plenary, Legislation, Advocacy

9:05am PDT

Coffee Break

Friday April 25, 2025 9:05am - 9:30am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2

Friday April 25, 2025 9:05am - 9:30am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2 5th Level

Food & Beverage

9:30am PDT

Keynote Speaker: Camille Vasquez

Friday April 25, 2025 9:30am - 10:30am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6

As an NBC News Legal Analyst and renowned attorney, Camille Vasquez is sought after for her critical insights and perspective on today’s most high-profile legal cases.
Many people around the world were consumed by the high-profile nature of the Johnny Depp defamation case, but it’s the behind-the-scenes stories that are both riveting and enlightening. Audiences will hear how members of the unique legal team were chosen, gain insights into their months of preparation and discover how—after more than 100 hours of testimony—the jury was convinced to rule in their favor.
As rising star Vasquez was named “One to Watch” by Best Lawyers in America for 2021-22. She has extensive experience handling reputation management and crisis communications, and more than 10 years of experience as a trial lawyer in high-stakes disputes, including other defamation cases.
A first-generation American born in San Francisco, she is the daughter of Latino immigrants—her mother is from Cuba and her father is from Colombia. Camille graduated magna cum laude from the University of Southern California where she studied communications and political science. She received her Juris Doctor from Southwestern Law School.
Speaking alone, or together with fellow attorney Ben Chew, Vasquez tells audiences what it took to build the case that was six years in the making and to-date has inspired the #1 Netflix series Depp V. Heard, the NBC documentary A Marriage on Trial, the two-part Discovery+ docuseries Johnny vs. Amber, and the scripted movie Hot Take: The Depp/Heard Trial, which premiered on Tubi. Audiences will hear how members of the BR legal team were selected, gain insights into the months of trial preparation and discover why—after more than 100 hours of testimony—the jury ruled in Johnny Depp’s favor.

Speakers

Camille Vasquez

NBC News Legal Analyst; Litigator famous for her key role in the Johnny Depp defamation case featured in the #1 Netflix series, Depp V. Heard, Partner Sheppard Mullen

NBC News Legal Analyst; Litigator famous for her key role in the Johnny Depp defamation case featured in the #1 Netflix series, Depp V. HeardAs an NBC News Legal Analyst and renowned attorney, Camille Vasquez is sought after for her critical insights and perspective on today’s most... Read More →

Friday April 25, 2025 9:30am - 10:30am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6 5th Level

Plenary

10:30am PDT

Case Law Update

Friday April 25, 2025 10:30am - 11:45am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6

Speakers

John Rao

Senior Attorney, National Consumer Law Center, Inc.

John RaoNational Consumer Law Center, Inc.AttorneyBoston MA 02110-1245John Rao is a senior attorney with the National Consumer Law Center, Inc. focusing on consumer credit, mortgage servicing, and bankruptcy issues. Mr. Rao has served as a panelist and instructor at numerous bankruptcy... Read More →

Henry Sommer

Henry J. Sommer has litigated many major cases involving bankruptcy, consumer law, civil rights and other issues. Previously, he was the head of the Consumer Law Project at Community Legal Services in Philadelphia, where he worked for over 21 years and Supervising Attorney at the... Read More →

Robert Wieckowski

Senator, California Senate District 10

Bob Wieckowski currently serves as a board member of the CA Unemployment Insurance Appeals Board, administering second level appellate cases. Bob Wieckowski previously served as State Senator representing the 10th Senate District in the California State Legislature from Nov. 4, 2014... Read More →

Friday April 25, 2025 10:30am - 11:45am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6 5th Level

Plenary, Caselaw Update

12:30pm PDT

NACBA's Annual Awards Luncheon {Black Tie Optional}

Friday April 25, 2025 12:30pm - 2:00pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6

Friday April 25, 2025 12:30pm - 2:00pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6 5th Level

Food & Beverage

2:00pm PDT

HOT TOPIC! Asset Appreciation in Chapter 13

Friday April 25, 2025 2:00pm - 3:00pm PDT

Hollywood Ballroom Studios A-C

Navigating the complexities of Chapter 13 plan confirmation requires a clear understanding of best practices and potential pitfalls. This session will provide a comprehensive overview of the essential steps in confirming a Chapter 13 plan, highlighting key considerations, common objections, and strategies to ensure compliance with bankruptcy requirements. Attendees will gain insights from experienced practitioners on how to handle trustee objections, maximize debtor protections, and streamline the confirmation process for a successful outcome.

Speakers

Kara Gendron

Owner, Mott & Gendron Law

Kara Gendron has practiced bankruptcy law exclusively since 2001, focusing on helping individuals, farmers, and small business owners navigate Chapter 7, 11, 12, and 13 cases. She is admitted to practice before the Supreme Court of Pennsylvania, the U.S. District Courts for the Middle... Read More →

Brian D. Wirsching

Chapter 13 Trustee

Friday April 25, 2025 2:00pm - 3:00pm PDT
Hollywood Ballroom Studios A-C Mezzanine Level

Chapter 13, Hot Topic

2:00pm PDT

HOT TOPIC! Grand Theft Auto

Friday April 25, 2025 2:00pm - 3:00pm PDT

Hollywood Ballroom Studios D-E

Auto title loans are often marketed as quick financial solutions but frequently become high-cost debt traps for vulnerable consumers. This session will examine how bankruptcy courts interpret title loan agreements and the implications for debtors seeking relief under Chapter 13. Attendees will gain insights into the legal strategies used by title lenders, the impact of state pawnshop laws, and potential legislative solutions to protect consumers from losing their vehicles unfairly. Join us for an in-depth discussion on the intersection of bankruptcy law and predatory lending practices.

Speakers

Brian Flick

Partner; Managing Attorney, Bankruptcy Practice and Consumer Litigation Practice, DannLaw

Attorney Brian Flick, managing partner of the Group's Cincinnati office, is a tireless advocate for consumers in Ohio, Kentucky and across the United States. His practice is focused on bankruptcy, foreclosure defense, class action litigation, appellate litigation and other areas... Read More →

Prof. Creola Johnson

President’s Club Professor of Law, Moritz College of Law, THE Ohio State University

Following graduation, Professor Creola Johnson spent four years practicing bankruptcy and corporate law at Klett, Lieber, Rooney and Schorling in Pittsburgh.She has taught at the West Virginia University College of Law and has worked as a staff attorney with Pittsburgh’s Neighborhood... Read More →

Friday April 25, 2025 2:00pm - 3:00pm PDT
Hollywood Ballroom Studios D-E Mezzanine Level

Solar Panels, Hot Topic

3:15pm PDT

Views from the Bench

Friday April 25, 2025 3:15pm - 4:00pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6

Moderators

Jenny Doling

Tax & Bankruptcy Attorney | NACBA Vice President | NACBA Board Member, J. DOLING LAW, PC

Speakers

Hon. Elizabeth Gunn

Bankruptcy Judge, United States Bankruptcy Court, District of Columbia

Hon. Elizabeth L. Gunn was appointed to serve as bankruptcy judge for the District of Columbia on September 4, 2020. A COVID-era selection and appointment, she was sworn in by Zoom from her living room. Before her appointment, Judge Gunn served as an Assistant Attorney General for... Read More →

Hon. Magdalena Reyes Bordeaux

The Honorable Magdalena Reyes Bordeaux is a bankruptcy judge for the CentralDistrict of California, Riverside Division.Prior to her appointment, she managed Public Counsel’s Debtor Assistance Projectand was an adjunct professor at Loyola Law School. She was also an elected memberof... Read More →

Hon. Kevin R. Anderson

Judge, United States Bankruptcy Court, District of Utah

Prior to his appointment as a bankruptcy judge for the District of Utah in September of 2015, Judge Anderson served for seventeen years as the Standing Chapter 13 Trustee for the District of Utah. During this time, he administered over 70,000 Chapter 13 cases.  Judge Anderson was... Read More →

Hon. Laura Taylor

Judge Taylor has served as a United States Bankruptcy Judge for the Southern District of California since January 2008. She ended a seven year term as Chief Judge in October of 2019.In January 2013, Judge Taylor was appointed to a seven year term on the Ninth Circuit Bankruptcy Appellate... Read More →

Hon. Deborah Saltzman

Judge Saltzman was sworn in as a judge of the United States Bankruptcy Court for Central District of California on March 18, 2010. Prior to her appointment to the bench, Judge Saltzman practiced bankruptcy law for 12 years, most recently with DLA Piper LLP (US) in Los Angeles. While... Read More →

Friday April 25, 2025 3:15pm - 4:00pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6 5th Level

Plenary, Judges

4:00pm PDT

NACBA Welcome Reception

Friday April 25, 2025 4:00pm - 5:30pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2

Grab a drink, a hors d'oeuvre or two and come say hello to NACBA's Sponsors and Exhibitors. Badges required.

Friday April 25, 2025 4:00pm - 5:30pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2 5th Level

Food & Beverage, Sponsor & Exhibitor Meet & Greet

7:00am PDT

vLex Fastcase - An Overview of Your Legal Research Benefit

Saturday April 26, 2025 7:00am - 8:00am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salon 3

Join us for a session designed to help you harness the full potential of vLex Fastcase, your legal research member benefit with the National Association of Consumer Bankruptcy Attorneys! Explore cutting-edge legal research tools, discover customizable features, and experience game-changing AI-driven insights, like Case Analysis with Headnotes. This session will provide actionable insights and tips to save time and supercharge your legal research process!

Saturday April 26, 2025 7:00am - 8:00am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salon 3 5th Level

7:30am PDT

Breakfast

Saturday April 26, 2025 7:30am - 8:30am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2

Saturday April 26, 2025 7:30am - 8:30am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2 5th Level

Food & Beverage

7:30am PDT

Convention Registration & Information Desk

Saturday April 26, 2025 7:30am - 5:30pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Entrance

Saturday April 26, 2025 7:30am - 5:30pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Entrance 5th Level

CLE Info

8:30am PDT

Newbie/Paralegal Session Part 1 Fee Agreements, Intake, Consultation, BK and NON BK Options, Red Flags

Saturday April 26, 2025 8:30am - 9:30am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salon 3

Starting Strong: Mastering the Bankruptcy Intake Process, Fee Agreements, and Consultations
Laying the foundation for a successful bankruptcy practice starts with an efficient intake process, clear fee agreements, and effective client consultations. This session will provide practical strategies for streamlining case management, ensuring compliance with key legal requirements, and building strong client relationships. Learn how to identify red flags, leverage digital tools for secure document management, and conduct consultations that set the right expectations from the start. Perfect for new practitioners and paralegals looking to enhance their bankruptcy practice.

Speakers

Hon. Elizabeth Gunn

Bankruptcy Judge, United States Bankruptcy Court, District of Columbia

Sarah Beth Withers

Attorney, Inner Banks Legal Services

Sarah Beth is the founder of Inner Banks Legal Services, a non-profit law firm committed to bridging the justice gap in Eastern North Carolina. As a Board Certified Consumer Bankruptcy Law Specialist, she focuses on representing consumers in Chapter 7 and Chapter 13 bankruptcy cases... Read More →

Saturday April 26, 2025 8:30am - 9:30am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salon 3 5th Level

Beginner, Fee Agreements

8:30am PDT

The U.S. Small Business Administration as a Creditor: Dealing with EIDLs, PPPs and Other SBA Loans In and Out Bankruptcy

Saturday April 26, 2025 8:30am - 9:30am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6

After the SBA granted 3.75 million COVID EIDLs (totaling more than $377 Billion), dealing with the SBA has become more common place. Even with an influx of income during the pandemic, many businesses still failed. This seminar will discuss the types of SBA loans made and options available to deal with them both in and out of bankruptcy.

Speakers

Lisa Thompson

Principal/Owner, Thompson Law Group, P.C.

Lisa C. Thompson has been practicing law for 29 years and earned a Master of Laws (LL.M.) in International Trade and Business in 1997. She is licensed to practice in Arizona, California, Nevada, and Washington, D.C. Lisa has been writing for Thomson West on business and debtor-creditor... Read More →

Deepalie Milie Joshi

Attorney, Joshi Law

Saturday April 26, 2025 8:30am - 9:30am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6 5th Level

EIDL, Advanced

9:30am PDT

Newbie/Paralegal Session Part 2 Means Test & Chapter Selection

Saturday April 26, 2025 9:30am - 10:30am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salon 3

A concise overview of the Means Test in Chapter 7 and Chapter 13 bankruptcies, focusing on calculation of income, allowable expenses, and the application of IRS standards. Attendees will also learn how to identify and present special circumstances to ensure accurate and fair outcomes for the debtors.

Moderators

Alisa Admiral

Alisa Admiral is a consumer bankruptcy practitioner in the Central District of California. She has successfully representedthousands of debtors in chapter 7 and chapter 13 cases. She is a former board member of the Central District Consumer Bankruptcy Attorneys Association (CDCBAA... Read More →

Speakers

Michael Primus

Michael Primus has been practicing consumer bankruptcy since 1992 in the San Francisco Bay Area. He actively participates in his local bar association and teaches continuing education from time to time. He is a husband and father to two great kids. He and his wife enjoy live... Read More →

Nancy Clark

Partner, Borowitz & Clark, LLP

Nancy B. Clark is a Partner at Borowitz & Clark, LLP. She received her BA from Boston University where she double majored in History and Political Science. She received her JD from California Western School of Law. Ms. Clark has served on the Board of the Central District Consumer... Read More →

Saturday April 26, 2025 9:30am - 10:30am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salon 3 5th Level

Beginner, Means Test

9:30am PDT

Litigation Part 1 {BASICS}

Saturday April 26, 2025 9:30am - 10:30am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6

Master the fundamentals of bankruptcy litigation in this two-part session designed to equip attorneys with the essential tools and strategies for navigating adversary proceedings and contested matters. Learn how to build a strong litigation toolkit, understand key procedural rules, manage client expectations, and effectively advocate for your clients in bankruptcy court. From pre-filing considerations to discovery, depositions, and trial preparation, this session will provide practical insights to enhance your litigation skills and ensure success in bankruptcy-related disputes.

Speakers

Rashad Blossom

Thad Bartholow

Partner, Kellett & Bartholow PLLC

Thad Bartholow is a partner with the Dallas, Texas law firm of Kellett & Bartholow PLLC. Mr. Bartholow's practice focuses on individual and class-action litigation on behalf of consumer debtors in state, federal, and bankruptcy courts nationwide. Mr. Bartholow has secured hundreds... Read More →

Karen Kellet

Partner, Kellett & Bartholow, PLLC

KAREN L. KELLETT obtained her B.B.A. from Texas A&M University, where she graduated summa cum laude in 1984, and her law degree from the University of Texas, where she graduated with honors in 1987. Ms. Kellett was an attorney at Thompson & Knight from 1987-1994. She represented... Read More →

Saturday April 26, 2025 9:30am - 10:30am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6 5th Level

Litigation, Advanced

10:30am PDT

Coffee Break

Saturday April 26, 2025 10:30am - 11:00am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2

Saturday April 26, 2025 10:30am - 11:00am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2 5th Level

Food & Beverage

11:00am PDT

Newbie/Paralegal Session Part 3 Best Practices, Petition Prep, Bank Statements

Saturday April 26, 2025 11:00am - 12:00pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salon 3

Navigating bankruptcy documentation and petition preparation can be overwhelming for new practitioners and paralegals. This session will provide a step-by-step guide to document collection, client intake, and petition preparation while ensuring compliance with the Federal Rules of Bankruptcy Procedure. Attendees will learn best practices for verifying debtor identity, handling bank statements, organizing financial records, and preparing clients for the meeting of creditors. Whether you're new to bankruptcy or looking to refine your workflow, this session will equip you with essential skills to streamline case preparation and ensure accuracy in filings.

Moderators

Mike Gouveia

Owner, Law Office of Michael Gouveia

Michael Gouveia represents consumer debtors in Riverside, California. This is the fourth timethat he has presented at the NACBA Convention.Mike teaches newer attorneys as the mentoring chair for the Central District ConsumerBankruptcy Attorney Association in Los Angeles, CA and as... Read More →

Speakers

Richard Nemeth

Co-Managing Partner, Nemeth & Perry, LLC

Mr. Nemeth has been representing consumers and small businesses in bankruptcy proceedings in Northern Ohio and elsewhere for over 30 years. In April, 2013 Mr. Nemeth was the first recipient of the NACBA Hammes-Shulman Award for his significant achievements in legislative advocacy... Read More →

Carol Colliersmith

Attorney, Law Office of Carol Colliersmith

Ms. Colliersmith received her law degree from the Fredric G. Levin College of Law at the University of Florida and has practiced exclusively consumer and small business bankruptcy law since 2001. She has been an active member of the National Association of Consumer Bankruptcy Attorneys... Read More →

Saturday April 26, 2025 11:00am - 12:00pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salon 3 5th Level

Beginner, Best Practices

11:00am PDT

Litigation Part 2 {BASICS}

Saturday April 26, 2025 11:00am - 12:00pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6

Speakers

Rashad Blossom

Thad Bartholow

Partner, Kellett & Bartholow PLLC

Karen Kellet

Partner, Kellett & Bartholow, PLLC

Saturday April 26, 2025 11:00am - 12:00pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6 5th Level

Litigation, Advanced

12:00pm PDT

Keynote Luncheon: Bankruptcy Filings: The New Norm or the Calm Before the Storm

Saturday April 26, 2025 12:00pm - 1:30pm PDT

Hollywood Ballroom

With bankruptcy filings at historic lows despite economic uncertainty, is this the new reality, or are we on the verge of a filing surge? This session, led by Hon. Kevin R. Anderson, will analyze key economic indicators, including unemployment trends, foreclosure rates, consumer debt, and inflation. Attendees will gain insights into the forces shaping the bankruptcy landscape and explore whether current conditions signal long-term stability or an impending financial storm.

Speakers

Hon. Kevin R. Anderson

Judge, United States Bankruptcy Court, District of Utah

Saturday April 26, 2025 12:00pm - 1:30pm PDT
Hollywood Ballroom Mezzanine Level

Food & Beverage

1:30pm PDT

Newbie/Paralegal Session Part 4 341 Meetings, Post Filings, Redemption, Trustee Compliance

Saturday April 26, 2025 1:30pm - 2:30pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salon 3

Ever wonder what the chapter 7 bankruptcy trustee does in your bankruptcy case?
Now is the time to learn at an informal chat with Larry Simons, Chapter 7 Trustee for the
Riverside Division of the Central District of California.
Topics include:
Questions asked at the meeting of creditors;
Documents needed post-filing;
What is a redemption; and
What the trustee needs to complete the case;
And much more!
Join us for this interactive discussion.

Speakers

Mike Gouveia

Owner, Law Office of Michael Gouveia

Larry Simons

Managing Attorney, Janus Law

Larry D. Simons is the managing attorney of Janus Law, with offices in Riverside and the San Fernando Valley. Mr.Simons’ represents all parties before the bankruptcy court, including debtors, creditors and trustees.Larry was appointed to the panel of Chapter 7 Trustees for the Riverside... Read More →

Saturday April 26, 2025 1:30pm - 2:30pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salon 3 5th Level

Beginner, Best Practices

1:30pm PDT

HOT TOPIC! Unmasking Deed Fraud: Lessons from the Graceland Case for Everyday Consumers

Saturday April 26, 2025 1:30pm - 2:30pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6

Deed fraud is not just a celebrity issue. In this eye-opening session, experts will dive into the recent Graceland case to uncover how this scheme plays out and, crucially, how we can protect everyday consumers who lack the resources of major estates. Join us to explore practical steps and effective legal strategies to help defend against this growing threat.

Speakers

David L. Fleck

David L. Fleck is a Partner in the Los Angeles office of Manning Kass. He is a member of the Governmental Entity Liability team.Mr. Fleck received his bachelor’s degree in Political Science from the University of California, Los Angeles, where he competed for the university on its... Read More →

Kwixuan Maloof

Assistant District Attorney, Alameda County District Attorney’s Office

Saturday April 26, 2025 1:30pm - 2:30pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6 5th Level

Deed Fraud, Advanced

2:30pm PDT

Chapter 13 Draft Plans

Saturday April 26, 2025 2:30pm - 3:30pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salon 3

This panel will discuss the dos and don’ts practitioners should consider when drafting the
debtor’s plan. Panelists will discuss issues relating to feasibility of the debtor, dealing with
creditor claims, good faith, liquidation analysis and the means test and how all these things can
impact confirmation of a plan.

Speakers

Akihito Koyama

Akihito “Aki” Koyama is the senior staff attorney for Chapter 13 Trustee Kathy A. Dockery from the Central District of California, Los Angeles Division. In 1998, He started his legal career as a bankruptcy associate representing primarily debtors and moved to the Trustee’s... Read More →

Carey Ebert

Standing Chapter 13 Trustee, Office of the Standing Chapter 13 Trustee

Ms. Ebert received her B.A. degree from H. Sophie Newcomb College of Tulane University, cum laude in Public Policy in 1982. She received her J.D. in 1985 from Texas Tech University. She was been a member of the firm, Ebert Law Offices, P.C. since 1989 until 2019. Ms. Ebert is admitted... Read More →

Saturday April 26, 2025 2:30pm - 3:30pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salon 3 5th Level

Chapter 13

2:30pm PDT

Navigating the Shifting Landscape of Student Loans in Bankruptcy Practice

Saturday April 26, 2025 2:30pm - 3:30pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6

Student loan policy is rapidly evolving, with significant changes that impact bankruptcy practitioners and their clients. This panel will provide a comprehensive update on recent developments, including major reforms to income-driven repayment (IDR) plans, the status of Public Service Loan Forgiveness (PSLF), and emerging legislation affecting student loans.
Panelists will also examine the Department of Justice’s guidance on student loan discharge in bankruptcy, discussing the program's success and what the future may hold for the dischargeability of loans. Attendees will gain practical insights into advising clients on student loan options, identifying opportunities for discharge, and navigating the intersection of bankruptcy and student loans in an increasingly complex environment.

Speakers

Hon. Magdalena Reyes Bordeaux

Ed Boltz

Partner, Law Offices of John T. Orcutt PC

Tara Salinas

Managing Attorney, Salinas Law Group, LLC

Tara Gaschler Salinas is the founder and managing attorney of Salinas Law Group LLC in Denver, Colorado. Her practice focuses on consumer Chapter 7 & 13 bankruptcy and litigation, as well as student loan law. She founded her law firm in 2003 and has handled hundreds of personal and... Read More →

Saturday April 26, 2025 2:30pm - 3:30pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6 5th Level

Student Loans

3:30pm PDT

Coffee Break

Saturday April 26, 2025 3:30pm - 4:00pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2

Saturday April 26, 2025 3:30pm - 4:00pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2 5th Level

Food & Beverage

4:00pm PDT

Insights into Bankruptcy Appeals: Make Your Record, Draft Your Brief, and Argue Your Appeal

Saturday April 26, 2025 4:00pm - 5:00pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salon 3

This session offers a rare and invaluable opportunity to hear directly from Bankruptcy
Appellate Panel Judges and a seasoned bankruptcy attorney who also clerked for a
BAP judge. The panelists will share their perspectives on the most pressing issues in
bankruptcy appeals, from making a record and drafting your brief to arguing your
appeal. They will also cover the standards of review and winning strategies. With
firsthand insights into how the appellate courts evaluate and decide cases, this
discussion will provide attendees with a deeper understanding of appellate procedures.
This session is a must-attend for both practitioners and legal scholars alike.

Speakers

Hon. Laura Taylor

Hon. Meredith Jury (Ret.)

UCLA Law 1976. Best Best & Krieger, Riverside, CA 1976-1997. Bankruptcy Judge Central District of California, Riverside Division 1997-2018. 9th Cir. BAP 2007-2017, Chief of BAP 2015-2017. Retired doing pro bono mediations and consumer appellate work.

M. Jonathan Hayes

Partner, Resnik Hayes Moradi LLP

Saturday April 26, 2025 4:00pm - 5:00pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salon 3 5th Level

Appeals

4:00pm PDT

HOT TOPIC! Navigating Homestead Exemption Issues in Consumer Bankruptcy

Saturday April 26, 2025 4:00pm - 5:00pm PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6

Join us for an insightful discussion on the complexities and nuances of the homestead
exemption in consumer bankruptcy cases. Our expert panel will explore key legal
strategies, recent case law developments, and practical tips for effectively leveraging
the homestead exemption to protect our clients' most important asset. Specifically, we
will address the issues concerning 11 U.S.C. ' 522(m), (o), (p), and (q), the objective
and subjective factors to prove the validity of the debtor’s homestead exemption,
problems with renting out the homestead or a portion thereof (ABNB, VRBO, ADU,
duplex, outbuilding, etc.), and pushing back on trustee carve-out issues when a debtor
technically has no equity in the homestead property. So, whether you are dealing with
high-value properties, intricate state-specific rules, or the evolving legal landscape, this
session will provide valuable insights and actionable takeaways for bankruptcy
attorneys. Do not miss this opportunity to enhance your practice and stay ahead of the
curve in homestead exemption matters.

Speakers

John Rao

Senior Attorney, National Consumer Law Center, Inc.

Jenny Doling

Tax & Bankruptcy Attorney | NACBA Vice President | NACBA Board Member, J. DOLING LAW, PC

Saturday April 26, 2025 4:00pm - 5:00pm PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 4-6 5th Level

Homestead Exemption

5:30pm PDT

NACBA Museum Takeover: Madame Tussaud's {Dinner & Drinks Included}

Saturday April 26, 2025 5:30pm - 11:00pm PDT

Madame Tussaud's

Join Us for an Exclusive Evening at Madame Tussaud's!Event Details:

Date: Saturday, April 26th
Time: 6:00 PM - 10:00 PM
Location: Madame Tussaud's
Note: Closed to the public—NACBA is taking over the entire museum!

What to Expect:

Full access to the entire Madame Tussaud's museum
Experience the thrilling Marvel 4D Adventure
Test your skills in the action-packed Robot Riot 7D Game
Enjoy a delicious dinner buffet
Savor a variety of drinks from the wine and beer bar
Includes access to the Hollywood Rooftop Bar to take in views of Hollywood Blvd

Ticket Pricing:

Adults (ages 12 & up): $125 each
Children (ages 5-11): $50 each {Email us at admin@nacba.com to purchase tickets for your kids}
Children (4 & under): Free

Don’t miss this unforgettable night of fun, food, and entertainment!
Reserve your tickets now and make memories that will last a lifetime.

Saturday April 26, 2025 5:30pm - 11:00pm PDT
Madame Tussaud's

Group Event

8:00am PDT

Breakfast

Sunday April 27, 2025 8:00am - 9:00am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2

Sunday April 27, 2025 8:00am - 9:00am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 1-2 5th Level

Food & Beverage

8:00am PDT

Convention Registration & Information Desk

Sunday April 27, 2025 8:00am - 11:30am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Entrance

Sunday April 27, 2025 8:00am - 11:30am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Entrance 5th Level

CLE Info

9:00am PDT

Plenary: Avoiding Consumer Bankruptcy Malpractice Pitfalls

Sunday April 27, 2025 9:00am - 10:00am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6

In this crucial session, our panel of experienced attorneys and the Honorable Deborah
Saltzman will delve into the common malpractice risks faced by bankruptcy
practitioners. We will explore the most frequent mistakes that can lead to malpractice
claims, from emergency filings, due diligence investigations, dischargeability of taxes,
exemption planning, representing multiple parties to mishandling client expectations and
ethical challenges. Attendees will gain practical insights into best practices for
minimizing exposure to liability, managing client relationships, and ensuring compliance
with ever-evolving bankruptcy laws. Whether you are a seasoned professional or new to
bankruptcy law, this panel will equip you with the tools to safeguard your practice and
protect your clients.

Speakers

Hon. Deborah Saltzman

David Cox

Lawyer, Cox Law Group

David Cox is the founding member of Cox Law Group and practices bankruptcy law throughout the Western District of Virginia. David is a member of the National Bankruptcy Conference, a fellow of the American College of Bankruptcy and serves on the Board of the American Bankruptcy I... Read More →

Jenny Doling

Tax & Bankruptcy Attorney | NACBA Vice President | NACBA Board Member, J. DOLING LAW, PC

Sunday April 27, 2025 9:00am - 10:00am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6 5th Level

Ethics, Mal Practice

10:00am PDT

Plenary: State Bar Ethics

Sunday April 27, 2025 10:00am - 11:00am PDT

Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6

Ethical dilemmas are a daily reality for bankruptcy attorneys, requiring careful navigation of professional responsibility rules. This plenary session will provide a deep dive into state bar ethics, focusing on competence, diligence, conflicts of interest, client communication, and confidentiality. Led by experienced legal ethics experts, the discussion will explore real-world scenarios, best practices for compliance, and strategies to uphold ethical standards while effectively representing clients in bankruptcy matters.

Speakers

Erica Dennings

Erica Dennings is an experienced litigator dedicated to public service in her professional andpersonal life. A graduate of Stanford University and University of Texas at Austin School ofLaw, she worked for insurance defense firms in the first few years of practice. Ms. Dennings is... Read More →

Misty Perry Isaacson

Attorney at Law, Pagter and Perry Isaacson, APLC

Misty Perry Isaacson focuses her practice on bankruptcy and insolvency matters. She is a Certified Bankruptcy Specialist, certified by the State Bar of California and has over 25 years of experience in bankruptcy matters. She has represented debtors, creditors, chapter 7 and 13 trustees... Read More →

Sunday April 27, 2025 10:00am - 11:00am PDT
Dolby Ballroom Salons 3-6 5th Level

Ethics